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Pranav Kumar speaks to women CFOs to find out
why so few women reach the top of the corporate ladder IMA India, the publisher of CFO Connect,
runs membership-based programmes
for senior executives. Currently, there
are more than 1500 unique individuals
who are members of the peer groups
for CEOs, CFOs, CIOs, HR Directors, and
CMOs. The members are invited to attend
closed-door meetings on topics ranging
from the economy to the political environment,
to functional issues and to leadership.
Apart from the fact that the attendees
are some of the finest minds in business,
the other common feature is that most of
them are males. The gender gap is perhaps
a little less in the HR Directors’ Forum,
but is the widest in the CFO Forum. Constituting
more than 850 unique members, only
26 are women. This works out to just about
3 per cent. Compare this with the share of
women in the total population, which is
around half! The mystery of the missing
women at the top is what this article seeks
to unravel.
Not in India alone The gender imbalance though more
acute, is not unique to India. Even though
women now constitute roughly half the total
workforce in the USA, women accounted
for only 9 per cent of CFO positions among
Fortune 500 companies in 2010. And this has
not changed much over the past decade. In
2002, the figure stood at around 7 per cent.
During this period, there was a lot of change
and movement, but the numbers have hardly
budged. Bain, a consultancy firm, calls this
phenomenon ‘the great disappearance act’
and it came out with a report by the same
name in 2010.
Why this scarcity?
A shallower pool?
Kimsukha Narsimhan, CFO, Pepsico
India says that the pool of female talent in
the finance function is not deep to start with.
In top business schools, women account for
about 30 per cent of the intake and their share
of those with finance specialisation is much
smaller. Women now account for nearly
30 per cent of chartered accountant (CA)
entrants. The historical imbalance implies
that they are a much smaller percentage
of the pool of senior CAs capable of being
considered for CFO positions. In 1995, they
accounted for only 5.2 per cent of all members
of the Institute, which a decade later rose to
more than 13 per cent. In the decade of the 1990s, nearly 6700 women enrolled as members
compared with 38,000 men. Between
2000 and 2006, the number of women who
enrolled jumped to nearly 10,000, and that
of men stood at 32,000. Though the growth
of women in finance-related education has
been impressive, the absolute numbers are
still small.
This increase in enrolment is reflecting in a
higher proportion of women at the entry and
junior management levels, but it is too early
to make a dent in the overall gender inequality
at the top. Also, even now, the share of
women at these levels as well, is nowhere near
the halfway mark; which, given their share in
population, one should expect.
Life choices
Most CFOs we interviewed said that
women put family and the career of their
husbands ahead of their own. This usually
implies that when faced with a conflict, they
often sacrifice their own career. Further, a
typical life-cycle of a woman has several
humps – marriage, birth of children, periods
of important education milestones of their
children, and even ageing parents. During
these periods of change, women tend to be
pulled in different directions, and when they
are not able to cope, they quit the race or settle
for less demanding careers.
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Many women want to build their career
after taking a break for a few years, but they find that they cannot pick up the threads
from where they left them. The Bain-HBR.org
research says, “The survey clearly shows that
the time taken out for motherhood — and
the resulting lost experience — is still a root
cause of inequality in promotions, especially
in ‘up-or-out’ firms. Over time, working
mothers disappear from higher management
ranks in almost every industry. The result is:
Women constitute 50 per cent of America's
workforce, but in 2009 represented only 3 per
cent of Fortune 500 CEOs.” In the US, many
women executives start their own businesses
rather than fight the odds against them and
rebuild their careers in the corporate sector.
In India, they may settle for less ambitious
roles. Difficult position
The role of the CFO is tough and demanding.
Ms Narsimhan says deadlines keep
hitting you consistently. In other functions,
there are events and projects that require a
great deal of effort, but in finance there are
weekly, monthly, quarterly, and annual
deadlines, which are non-negotiable. Neeta
Revankar, CFO, Sasken adds that a CFO’s
role is large and is getting larger. A CFO is
expected to contribute to strategy, business
growth, risk management in addition to influencing
people and flawless execution. The
range of functions that roll up to the CFO’s
role has also expanded to include accounting, treasury, risk management, audit, investor
relations and even information technology.
The role tends to be even more difficult in
large, diversified, and complex organisations.
Ms Revankar, in addition to heading finance,
also heads IT and human resources in her
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The
pool of female talent in the finance
function is not deep to start with. In top
business schools, women account for about 30
per cent of the intake and their share of
those with finance specialisation is much
smaller

Kimsukha Narsimhan
CFO, Pepsico India |
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This large and expanding role means long
working hours, and often, travel is inevitable,
which, given the constraints on their time,
many women are not able to cope with.
To get to the CFO’s level, typically a person
may need to do stints in multiple related
functions at different times in their career,
including treasury, tax, plant operations,
sales operations, supply chain and also headquarter
roles, such as financial planning and
analysis. This may require location change,
which many women are not able to do, says
Ms Narsimhan. Therefore, there are very
successful women in finance, but in specialist
functions that require skills, and which do not
require a lot of locational disruption.
For the same reason, marketing, and HR
(though not necessarily in manufacturing
companies), which are largely headquarter
functions, have more women in leadership
positions.
Lack of role models
To some extent, this is a chicken and egg
problem. A lack of women at the top results
in a paucity of role models to inspire other
women to rise to the top. It is
not just about inspiration, but
also setting examples. Women
who face the same challenges
and rise above them are in a
position to provide viable solutions
to these problems through
their own example. Some industries,
notably banking have
many successful women in
leadership positions including
in finance, who continue
to inspire other women, not
just in their organisations, but
also in others. CFO of ha Padalkar says that
many women make the mistake
of thinking that their travails
are unique. In reality, they can
learn a lot from those who have
succeeded despite the same
odds. However, as noted earlier,
there are only a handful of
women in such positions across
industries.
Glass ceiling exists (only cannot be seen)
Most organisations have written or unwritten
policies on equal opportunities and
biases continue to fester. Ms Revankar says
that managers are reluctant to hire women
because of the stereotypes. They continue
to believe that women have other priorities
and may not be able to give 100 per cent to
the job. In a competitive world where they
themselves are judged on their output, they
consider hiring women a risky proposition,
even though they may not have any obvious
bias against women. They are especially
reluctant to hire women who are at specific
stages of their lives, such as marriage, or
impending child-birth. Ms Revankar believes
this problem is more acute at the mid-management
levels. She feels that we can change
this mindset by relentlessly presenting the
longer term business benefits that arise from
diversity, facts about women employees’
performance and attrition rates, rather than
through rhetorical arguments. She is quick to
point out that she herself has not encountered
any career threatening biases.
Merely having women-friendly policies,
such as flexi-hours does not change things
much. Some managers do not want to recruit
people (both men and women) who need
or seek flexi-hours. In this respect, multinational
organisations are ahead of their
local peers, acknowledges Ms Revankar.
Ms Padalkar, who has worked with Colgate
Palmolive, Charu Mital, Director Finance
and Admin, Korn/Ferry International who
has also worked with Amex and Ms Narsimhan,
who has also worked with Unilever
acknowledge that these companies provide
a good environment for women executives.
Ms Padalkar agrees that many Indian organisations
are not clued-in about the gender
issue. Things are changing, but only slowly.
As employers conduct exit interviews of
capable women leaving organisations there
is increasing awareness of the cost of not
having a woman-friendly environment (not
just policies). Unfortunately, however, this is
not happening fast enough.
The Bain-HBR.org survey findings suggest
that globally this issue has not been
adequately addressed. Nearly 80 per cent
of women and men surveyed said that they
were convinced of the benefits of gender
parity at all levels. But only about 20 per
cent believe their companies actually put
meaningful resources behind it. Almost
three-quarters of respondents said that their
companies launched initiatives like flexi work programmes and mentorships, but
fewer than 25 per cent felt they were effective.
Nearly 60 per cent of survey respondents
say they are not solicited for their opinions
on gender parity by their companies. The
dismal metrics get worse: Less than 20 per
cent report that their companies effectively
utilise gender parity metrics to track progress.
Only 14 per cent say they had effective gender
parity training or workshops. Just 8 per cent
believe their firms effectively tied incentives
and compensation to gender parity. Unless,
organisations steer and align the whole organisation
behind this imperative, genuine
progress will be slow.
Inability to network
Most CFOs we spoke to acknowledged that women
are not good at networking. They typically do
not engage in after-office drinks with
colleagues or to the designated smoking zones
where you meet not just peers but also juniors,
preferring instead to finish work and go home.
This prevents the development of their informal
network in the organisation that helps in
understanding and negotiating the complexities
of a modern corporation.
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There is nothing
wrong in doing
something
that I believe
in, whether it
is meditation,
social work, or
my career

Rupa Vora
Group Director, CFO
Fund Initiatives, IDFC |
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Why does it matter?
In general, a deeper talent pool is always
better than a shallower one. Greater choice
increases the likelihood of a better fit. Further,
by making opportunities equal at the top,
companies will encourage women at all the
levels of the organisation. This will increase
the availability of talent at all levels. The Bain-
HBR study makes the point that “companies
that fail to retain and promote women to top
leadership positions experience a significant
drain on resources and talent. They must
bring in new employees to balance the outflow
of women, and they must reach deeper
into the remaining ranks to fill management
positions”. Though India has an abundant
labour pool, shortages exist for specific skills
and for leadership talent. By bringing more
women into the leadership pipeline will alleviate
this scarcity.
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Further, women also bring certain skills
that are specific to their gender. They tend
to be more intuitive and empathetic, says
Rupa Vora, Group Director, CFO Fund Initiatives,
IDFC. Charu Mital, CFO of KornFerry
International, believes that women are high
on integrity, focused on controls, generally
have a fair attitude, practise optimal communication
skills, are active listeners, are
good at empowering people, approachable, and compassionate with their employees.
Women are also good at multi-tasking which
is a good skill to have in the current work
environment where the scope of all business
roles, especially at the top is broadening. Ms
Vora believes that some part of the origin
of this differentiation is biological. Whatever
the root cause – nature or nurture - if
there are behavioural differences between
genders (real or perceived), it is in organisations’
interests to leverage them for their
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Women are
high on integrity,
focused on
controls,
generally have a
fair attitude, and
practise optimal
communication
skills

Charu Mital
CFO of KornFerry
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There may also be finance role specific
benefits of having a woman CFO. A study
conducted on S&P 1500 companies spanning
10 years (by Rensselaer Polytechnic
Institute), found that firms with women
CFOs scored 11 per cent lower bank-loan
prices than those with male finance heads.
They also won loans with longer maturity
and were less frequently asked to provide
collateral. This, the study authors conclude,
is because banks see women as being less risk
averse, using more conservative accounting
policies and issuing debt less frequently.
Another research had concluded that the
stock markets react more favourably to both
acquisition announcements and secondary
equity offerings made by companies with
female CFOs.
There is no doubt, there are equally compelling
benefits of having male CFOs, that
may spring from the way they perceive their
roles. The purpose of these studies is not to
make a case for preferentially hiring women
CFOs, but to point out that other things being
equal, there may be some unexpected
benefits of doing it.
Winds of change?
At the outset, perhaps it should be
mentioned that things have been changing,
though perhaps not fast enough. Today,
many more women are in mid-management
levels who are serious about their careers.
This will eventually lead to more women
reaching the top, inspiring more women
thus, starting a virtuous cycle. Ms Narsimhan
recalls that there were far fewer women
in finance when she began her career two
decades ago. Increasing numbers instill
greater comfort among women employees.
However, that women will break through the
glass ceiling is by no means guaranteed. As
noted earlier, among Fortune 500 companies,
the share of women CFOs has been stuck at
under 10 per cent for a decade, even though
the share of women in the workforce and higher education continues to rise.
Today, there are also more favourable
conditions for women in many organisations.
Policies on flexible working hours and
working from home continue to be embraced
by more and more organisations. Technological
change has made it possible for women
(and men too) to enjoy this flexibility. As the
transactional part of finance is increasingly
outsourced and automated, the need to be
physically present in the organisation all the
time is also diminishing.
Further, the attitude of male colleagues is
also changing. Ms Narsimhan says that many
men, who are passing through a difficult
phase, also want flexibility of working hours
and they understand better why women seem
to prefer it and that it does not imply that their
commitment or contribution is lesser. This
said much more ground needs to be covered
in the coming years to make diversity in the
‘C’ suite a reality. Some of these imperatives
are discussed in the rest of this article.
What should women do?
Part of the reason for success is always
systemic, but the other part, often bigger, is
personal. Though it is a cliché, but there is
some truth in the saying that winners do not
always do different things, but do things differently.
The experiences of women CFOs do
shed some light on the issue. So do the policies
and practices in some leading companies
which are better at diversity at the top.
Change begins within
Ms Padalkar says that first women should
be clear about their priorities. Many of them
are conditioned to de-prioritise their careers
to accommodate the expectations of their
families when they get married. She feels that
it need not be and if they make it clear that
their careers are non-negotiable, many more
of them will reach the top. This is not to say
that conflicts - both real and imaginary - will
not arise, but the solution will need to be
sought by both the partners.
Rupa Vora, who is a committed member of
‘Art of Living Foundation’ draws inspiration
from 10 two-letter words – ‘if it is to be, it is
up to me’. She believes that with resolve it is
possible to overcome obstacles, challenging
though they are. She feels that women should
get over the feelings of guilt if they are not
able to spend a lot of time on the home front.
There is nothing wrong in doing something
that I believe in, whether it is meditation,
social work, or my career, she says.
Build a support system
Women struggle unnecessarily, says
Ms Revankar, adding that it is so simple
to put in place a support system so
that you can focus on your career. Ms
Padalkar agrees and says one should
outsource as much as possible and
identify people who can help look after
the kids, elderly parents, and assist with
daily chores, among others. She considers
this akin to the business continuity
plans that companies make, and is always
on a lookout for competent people
who can help out with these activities,
even when she does not need to.
It is not just the material support
system, but also emotional that is
needed. Ms Revankar acknowledges
that women often neglect this, both
because it requires investment of time
and also because they do not realise the
need for it. Having friends, family, colleagues,
coaches and mentors can go a
long way in sorting out vexing personal
and professional issues and dilemmas.
Find a mentor
Ms Vora believes that the mentors
that she found played a big role in shaping
her as a professional. “I was fortunate to
have people like Dr Kelkar and Luis Miranda
as my mentors. I learned a lot from their outof-
the-box thinking and looking for an opportunity
in every problem. They challenged me
and helped me develop as a leader,” she says.
Ms Revankar acknowledges that her seniors
had spotted her potential and they provided
her with the necessary opportunities to grow.
She says women need such advocacy and
support. If it is not forthcoming, women
should actively seek it. Ms Mital agrees that
mentorship programmes will be useful, but
she has not seen a model mentorship programme
so far. Given that she has worked
at some of the finest companies, it appears
that mentorship has still not evolved as an
HR tool, at least in India.
Build a good team
A good team is a force multiplier and
when working optimally, it helps everyone
become more productive and deliver more
in the same or less time. Given that time is
often at a premium for working women, a
good team is not a luxury but a necessity.
Ms Vora says that she has always had smart
people working for her, and this has helped
all of them to work smart rather than hard.

The large and
expanding role
means long
working hours,
and often, travel
is inevitable,
which, given the
constraints on
their time, many
women are not
able to cope with

Neeta Revankar
CFO, Sasken |
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Actively manage your career
There were a couple of times in her career
when Ms Narsimhan was asked to shift to
another location, when she could not. “I
talked about it to my managers and on both
occasions, I managed to find opportunities
that did not require a change of location at
that time, and which also helped me in career
progression. While, she may have been
luckier than some others, if she had not taken
the initiative to find a solution, her career may
have taken an altogether different trajectory.
Many companies now offer flexibility to
partly or entirely work from home or from
remote locations, and when needed women
employees should avail them. In the long run,
it is better to get over the humps that inevitably
come in most people’s lives without having
to leave work, or to severely compromise
on personal commitments. This may result
in a reduction in salary for a period of time,
which may in the long run not be a very high
price to pay. However, as one goes up the
corporate ladder, it becomes increasingly difficult
to seek flexibility. Making contribution
to strategy and leading teams requires greater
personal presence, says Ms Mital.
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Ms Revankar believes that it is in the
woman executive’s interest not to change jobs
too frequently. Every job change necessitates proving oneself all over again, building a
new network and learning the processes and
culture of a new company. All this takes time,
which can be better spent on delivering value
at the current organisation. Sometimes being in a minority can be
advantageous, as it is easier to be noticed.
Ms Revankar started her career at Indal and
was the only woman in the finance team and
it helped her get noticed, she says.
Take a longer term view of your career
A career for an average professional is
about 35-40 years’ long, says Ms Narsimhan.
“It is not the end of the world, if there is a period
of deceleration. It is alright for a woman
to go on a long leave, even as long as 10 years,
and then come back,” she adds. Women
who return after a long break compare their
trajectory to that of their other colleagues
who did not, and feel dejected. “What is
wrong if you hit the post of CFO at 45, rather
than at 35, as some of your friends did,”
asks Ms Narsimhan? What is important is
that you fulfil your professional potential,
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Many women
make the
mistake of
thinking that
their travails
are unique. In
reality, they can
learn a lot from
those who have
succeeded
despite the
same odds

Vibha Padalkar
CFO of HDFC Life |
What should corporates do?
Have women-friendly policies
Flexible jobs can really act as a retention
magnet. Ms Padalkar says that if companies
can offer flexibility to women employees to
tide over difficult periods, then they will not
jump ship over a moderately better salary offer.
This itself makes a strong case for flexible
policies. She says that the toolkit for policies
includes the flexibility to work part-time
from home and flexible hours (arriving a little
later or leaving a little earlier). The Bain-HBR.
org report also argues for flexible policies,
“When done right, flex jobs-defined as jobs
that allow employees to contribute their
skills outside the standard workweek-offer
several benefits. They appeal to burned-out
employees who are seeking sustainability.
They allow employees, particularly women,
to stay engaged and continue to advance
during periods when they confront dilemmas
such as caring for children or aging
parents and managing 60-hour work weeks
or extensive travel.”
Further, and even more important, organisations
should have policies to shape
the career of women who want to rejoin the
workforce. Clearly, rejoining after a long
gap will have a cost for the employee, but
policies and programmes that encourage women to rejoin and also help them become
fully productive in the shortest span of time
will go a long way in correcting the imbalance.
Also, flexibility to allow women (or even
men) to work as contractors rather than as a
full-time employee for a period of time and
re-absorbing them into full-time roles when
they are able to commit will help.
Instituting formal mentorship programmes
will also help, which unfortunately
are not very common. Even when you have
corporate-wide initiatives, they will benefit
men more, says Ms Revankar. Therefore,
she advocates the designing of specific programmes
tailored for women.
Beyond policies
Though many organisations have adopted
all or some of these policies, very few have
‘mastered the art of carefully designing and
implementing effective flexible job models’
according to the authors of the Bain-HBR.
org report. Most companies, they contend,
fail to appreciate that ‘one size does not fit
all’. They advocate employee-specific flexible
programmes. Second, they advocate that
organisations must give visible evidence that
this model works and the management is solidly
behind them. When a sufficient number
of high performers are so supported, these
policies have the desired effect.
In the final analysis, it is the force of the
prevailing mindset that acts as the biggest
barrier, says Ms Revankar. This cannot be
changed by having policies that may be followed
in letter, but not in spirit. Therefore,
change will be a slow phenomenon, though
it will require hard work by those who value
diversity. She says that she wants men to
lead the diversity effort in her company, and
without forcing anyone to take it up, it has
happened, which is a hopeful sign.
Women CFOs are also cognizant of their
role as role models and champions of diversity
in their organisations and even in the
larger corporate sector. All of them talk and
write about these issues at all available fora.
Gradually, by virtue of their examples and
also because of their efforts to promote awareness
of these issues, change will happen.
The rising tide of women workers who are
building their careers in a different cultural,
corporate, and social milieu and have high
aspirations will be ready to take leadership
positions over the coming years. This will
make the world a little more equal for women.
It is in the interest of corporations to accelerate
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